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Are You Really Engaging Customers or Just Talking at Them?
Most SaaS companies spend a lot of time deciding what they want to tell customers. Far fewer design conversations around what they need to learn. Lux Narayan joins The Jasons to explore the difference between attendance and genuine engagement, and why listening matters across webinars, onboarding, training and Customer Success.
Why this matters
Attendance, participation and customer value are not the same thing. A customer can join a webinar, complete training or log into a product without understanding what to do next or changing their behaviour. When SaaS teams treat activity as evidence of value, weak adoption signals remain hidden until retention is already at risk.
Better engagement starts with listening. It means designing moments where customers can reveal what they understand, what they need and where they are stuck. That evidence gives teams a stronger basis for improving onboarding, product adoption and the customer experience.
Key ideas
Attendance is not engagement. Showing up tells you that someone accepted an invitation. It does not prove that they understood the message, changed their behaviour or moved closer to an outcome.
Interaction can still be theatre. Polls and questions are useful only when the answers change what happens next. Engagement should help the business learn, not simply make a presentation feel more active.
Start with what you need to learn. Before planning slides or messages, decide what evidence would help you understand the audience. Then design the conversation around collecting and responding to that evidence.
Customer education should produce progress. Onboarding and training are not complete because content was delivered. They work when customers can apply what they learned and use the product to achieve a meaningful outcome.
AI can help teams listen at scale. AI is potentially more valuable when it helps identify patterns across customer questions, comments and feedback than when it simply creates more content for customers to consume.
Activity is not evidence of value. Webinar attendance, course completion and product usage are useful signals, but they need to be connected to customer understanding, behaviour and outcomes.
Questions for SaaS leaders
- Which customer activities are you currently treating as proof of value without checking what changed afterwards?
- What do you need to learn from customers during webinars, onboarding and training?
- Do polls, questions and feedback change the customer journey or are they simply added interaction?
- Could AI help you find patterns in customer conversations rather than generate more messages?
Who should listen
This episode is for SaaS founders, Customer Success leaders, enablement teams, product marketers and anyone responsible for webinars, onboarding, customer education or product adoption.
About the guest
Lux Narayan is the founder of StreamAlive, which uses AI to turn chat in platforms such as Teams and Zoom into real-time interaction, including polls, maps, summaries and audience insights. He is also an author, entrepreneur and TED speaker with a long-standing interest in storytelling and how people communicate.